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Trevorjn
05/02/12 03:38 PM  
Logsdon Saison Yeast
Does anyone have any idea what strain Logsdon uses for primary fermentation? I have plated and isolated from bottle dregs and brewed 2 beers with this so far (Gen 1 had fairly low attenuation but Gen 2 took the beer down to 1.006), both have amazing aroma and flavor profiles similar to Logsdon's beers so I would think they bottle with the primary strain. I'm curious about it's origins though. Thanks for any help!
ssf
05/02/12 04:59 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
since dave logsdon founded wyeast, maybe he uses strains from there? also, for what it's worth, I noticed on their web page that their seizoen "is naturally fermented and carbonated with pear juice and select yeast strains"...
Trevorjn
05/02/12 07:39 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
I would think that because he's of Wyeast Dave would have access to many many yeast strains and not necessarily use commercially available ones. I have brewed with just about every WY and WLP saison strain available as well as dregs from several breweries and the Logsdon beers have a unique profile that does not remind me of any one of these strains (though I understand that process, pitching rate, temps etc. can have varied influence on the final product). When I plated the dregs I did not notice anything that stood out in terms of colony morphology that told me there were different yeast strains but I did propagate from 8 or so colonies to get some diversity. I couldn't find any contact info on Logsdon's site otherwise I would just email them.
Tim
05/03/12 09:49 AM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
From what I've heard his strains are proprietary, which makes sense given his background with Wyeast. Though Logsdon neither uses nor buys Wyeast's strains—he hasn't been with the company for several years now and his departure wasn't on the best of terms.
Brandon
05/03/12 11:37 AM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
I should have my interview with Dave (recorded last week) posted tomorrow. I did ask him about his yeast (s)

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Trevorjn
05/24/12 03:57 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
Brandon, thanks for doing that interview! Some decent info in there, too bad Dave wouldn't go into more detail on his yeast strains, at least now I know that there are 4 of them in there. I may have to re-plate some dregs and see if I can find all 4.

I am brewing my 3rd batch with this yeast right now and it's doing quite well. I've had some pretty good reviews on the first two beers made with it and I think this will be my new house yeast, I really love it's fruity ester profile.

Almighty
05/24/12 05:18 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
I agree that was a great interview.

I also got one his Seizon Bretta bottles so I can plate the dregs and get a few new strains of yeast.

I'm really excited to see what he does with those cherry trees.

B-Dub
05/24/12 08:45 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
Dave is living a grand dream! With any luck and support I hope to be there too.

BW

Trevorjn
06/12/12 07:53 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
BTW anyone going to NHC will be able to try one of the beers I have made with the Logsdon yeast, I'll have a keg there with my homebrew club, The Impaling Alers.

Can't wait for next week! Cheers

eeee
06/13/12 02:10 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
any chance you might be willing to share/trade that yeast
Trevorjn
06/13/12 02:46 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
I'm willing to share it! It is a finicky strain to ferment with, I have found that it likes very high temps. Makes some great beer though.
eeee
06/15/12 09:09 AM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
if you don't mind, send me an email or share yours and I will shoot you some info. i have some interesting yeast/bacteria I can exchange with you. XegXold@Xvt.eduX (minus the Xs)
Joelle
06/25/12 01:26 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
Hey Trevor. I tried your beer Friday night at the NHC. Very tasty!

Joelle

Trevorjn
06/26/12 02:07 AM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
Thanks! I got a fair amount of compliments on it and I am happy with how it turned out.
ChrisF
10/31/12 04:38 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
I'm currently stuck out in the PNW due to Sandy, and was lucky to find the Logsdon stuff on a couple of occasions. Wanted to bring a bottle of the straight Saison home to culture up the yeast from but could only find a bottle of the Brett version by the time I was ready to pack a bottle in my luggage. I suppose it can't hurt to culture a starter up from this bottle though, but obviously the brett could get out of control. perhaps this is one of those good problems.
Smokinghole
11/01/12 06:34 AM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
You can separate out the brett using a little microbiological plate work and a microscope. Doing so for just the brett is even easier if you have the proper media available (makes sacch isolation easier too).
ChrisF
11/01/12 09:44 AM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
I'll have to look into that, as I have no background in the sciences, ( other than whatever I encountered in HS),. Sounds interesting, fun and beneficial though. Any clue where a neophyte like myself might find some info on how to get started down such a path?
Andy M
11/02/12 12:11 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
Keep us updated. Logsdon Seizon Bretta is probably my favorite beer. I need to try and culture the dregs. Would you guys build up a starter from the non brett version and primary with that, then add dregs from the Bretta in secondary?

I would also really like to try the ECY 03 yeast, but I've yet to have any luck buying it.

Smokinghole
11/02/12 06:49 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
I don't know where there'd be a nice step by step that spells out what you need. If you cultured up a bit and sent it my way I could do it very easily. I have access to the differential media that is needed for separating the brett from the sacch. I can send you a culture then of each the brett and the sacch when I'm finished.

I'm a brewery lab tech with a biotechnology background. ;)

ChrisF
11/04/12 09:53 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
wow, that's an absolutely awesome offer, thank you. what would be the best way to send it?
smokinghole
11/05/12 07:27 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
USPS? It's cold enough now that it doesn't really matter. What ever way is cheapest. You can email me at eodcole at gmail. Then we can talk further.
ChrisF
11/08/12 10:22 PM  
Re: Logsdon Saison Yeast
Ok, will be getting the ball rolling on this tonight. About to make a small 1.020 starter and step it up to 1.030 and then 1.40, ( should be sufficient, no?),. Most importantly.... I get to drink this frikcing bottle finally!
 
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