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08/10/09 09:37 PM  
Lyle's Golden Syrup
Was wondering about Wegmans and found this in the english food section - "Lyle's Golden Syrup - Can sugar syrup for cooking and baking." Made by Tate & Lyle Sugars in London.

It's light amber/golden hued in color and looks a little more viscous than the Belgian candi sugar syrups, comes in an 11 oz. jar. Decided to buy it to try sometime in a brew... haven't tasted it yet.

Anyone ever use this stuff?

08/11/09 07:05 AM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
I've never used it, but Nothern Brewer sells it.


"Liquid invert sugar, used by many English brewers. Boosts gravity without altering flavor. Add during boil for authentic bitters, milds, and other English ales."

Al B
08/11/09 07:13 AM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
I think SteveG liked it, I used it once a long time ago. Inverted cane sugar.

If you want to try something REALLY good, try STEENS cane syrup from New Orleans. I can get ya some out of Shop Rite here in NJ. Best cane syrup on the market. No preservatives. Amber in color.

08/11/09 11:24 AM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
I've used the Lyle's in a 2XIPA before.

Its used in british recipes occasionally. I think its partially inverted already.

It is pretty thick almost like honey.


08/11/09 11:53 AM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
So people do have experience with it...cool. Al - they had a regional American food section, with lots from LA... I'll have to see if they have that. If I can't find it maybe I'll have you pick me up some in the future, thanks.
Brian Richards
08/11/09 12:02 PM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
It looks like Steens is pretty reasonably priced. Approx. $26 for 4 - 25oz cans. That's not a bad deal.
08/11/09 12:41 PM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
Als right, I love the stuff. Fantastic flavor. Gotta give STEENS a try though...
08/11/09 01:11 PM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
It's quite delicious. It's got a buttery flavor and is delicious on waffles.

It's a pity it's so expensive. I'm trying to hone my syrup making skills as a pound of cane sugar is much cheaper.

08/11/09 05:41 PM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
Details above are right. It is a partially inverted sugar.

Excellent addition for any british ales and also goes well as a sugar addition in belgian type ales.

I've used it a few times. Definitely not the same as candi sugar but nice as a variation.

Candi syrup and sugar is fairly expensive here in Australia too so Golden Syrup is a cheaper alternative if you don't want to go into making your own...

08/11/09 06:18 PM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
I've used LGS in light Belgians and while the results were fine, I couldn't necessarily point to any specific flavor contributions from this product (esp. vs. 'regular' invert sugar). Might try it for priming if you are looking to get some of its delicate faint caramel flavor.

Most interesting to me is the image on the LGS label, which references the Biblical story of bees making honey in the head of the lion killed by Samson (no joke, label has a dead lion on it with insects swarming around it!).

While that itself leads off down many interesting paths (old theories about spontaneous generation of life, musical versions of the Samson story, etc.), I have always been fond of the line from the story that is used as the tag line on the Lyle's labe "Out of Strength Came Forth Sweetness" . . .

Seems to me that a good summary of our brewing efforts would be the opposite - "Out of Sweetness Came Forth Strength"!

08/11/09 08:41 PM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
<<Seems to me that a good summary of our brewing efforts would be the opposite - "Out of Sweetness Came Forth Strength"!>> I like it!
08/13/09 11:57 AM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
Funny you mention that, Erik... I was wondering if that lion is dead!!
08/13/09 12:51 PM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
I'll mention that the reason I decided to try LGS is because I was told (by someone who assisted) that it was a component of (at least) one years production of Heavyweight Old Salty. I have to admit, I can't comment to specific flavor contributions. I think you'd have to do something side by side there to really have credibilty. But I will say that I think the stuff tastes out of this world, and all things equal I'd rather brew with products that I think taste great.
08/13/09 01:13 PM  
Re: Lyle's Golden Syrup
Huh, interesting factoid Steve. I'm surprised I'm just now finding out about this stuff!

I'm sure flavor impact is minimal, but I find it hard to believe that there's zero flavor contribution from this syrup. It's got more flavor than the clear Belgian candi sugar syrup, and personally I believe that tends to add a certain amount of "candi-like" flavor to a belgian...

I guess I just have to find out for myself!

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